Asked by db307 2 years ago
was wondering whether or not to purchse the derma rollers wahanda are selling at the mo. whilst i have a bit of cellute, stretch marks are a bigger concern and was wondering if this works on seeveral years old scars.
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DianeNivern 2 years ago
Stretch marks are deep tears or rips through the deep skin layers and contain scar tissue which is tough. To have a real effect on them a microneedle roller would need to have needles at least 2mm long to penetrate into the scar tissue of the stretch mark!
This is much longer than a home use roller which are typically 0.2mm to 0.5mm long. Needles of more than 0.3mm / 0.5mm long will reach the nerve endings in the skin and are therefore painful! That's why we use local anesthetic in clinic treatments.
We only use Genuine Dermarollers which have a medical CE mark, are sterile, single use rollers with surgical steel needles. Other dermarollers are not necessarily made to these high standards - bear this in mind when considering either clinic treatments or the purchase of a home use roller system! I have been sent samples of various dermarollers and needles have come out - you wouldn't want that to happen!
The objective with skin needling is to induce pinprick bleeding of the skin. The bleeding brings various cellular actions (fibroblast cell activity) and materials up through the skin's layers including skin growth factors. This is the same response the skin makes to an injury and instigates the formation of new skin and therefore collagen.
This collagen formation helps to smooth and fill in a stretch mark.
Several treatments would be needed depending upon the age and depth of the stretch marks.
I have had my own very deep stretch marks, which were caused during pregnancy 18 years ago, treated here in my clinic with a 2mm and a 2.5 mm dermaroller, 8 weeks apart.
The stretch marks are now very much smoother and not as deep. I feel than at least one more treatment would be beneficial to reduce them further.
I hope this goes someway to explain why a short home use roller couldn't make a difference to stretch marks.
It must be stressed that stretch marks cannot be eradicated completely by any treatment.
Diane Nivern LLSA MIPCH
Diane Nivern Clinic Ltd
Advanced Skin Rejuvenation and Medical Aesthetics Clinic
0161 796 1169
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JennyONeill 2 years ago
Hello, Dermarollers are very good at this application but you would need to go to a clinic as the home care ones are not deep enough. You will also need some local anaesthetic cream applied for at least 1/2 hour prior to treatment. We use the Genuine Dermaroller by Aestheticare and have been getting very pleasing results. You will need at least 3 treatments about 6 weeks apart. check out our website http://www.suffolkmedicalclinic.co.uk or the one below for more information. The other treatment that might be woth considering is Carboxytherapy by Rioblush as this works very well for some people.
Hope this helps
bodysilk 2 years ago
Dermaroller with 1.5mm needles is one of the most effective treatments for scars and stretch marks - everything less than 1.5mm is not very effective. You will have to have 3-5 treatments with 6 weeks between the sessions to achieve the result that you want. In our clinic, this treatment is carried out by a GMC registered doctor. Please, have a look at our website for more details or calls us 02072835800 if you have any questions.
sueone1 2 years ago
I am a dermal roller trainer and totally agree with Diane Nivern who gave an excellent explanation of transdermal needling.
A 1mm needle will not get you the results on your stretch marks but will allow deeper absorption of the product being applied immediately after needling.
A 2-3 mm needle is required though a 1.5 mm needle can be used for stretch marks. You really should have this done in a insured clinic or salon, I do not recommend buying a 2mm roller and treating yourself at home.
The quality of the roller is important and there are some contra-indications so please make sure that the clinic or salon has the relevent qualification and insurance to cover this treatment.
If you require further information contact me on http://www.healthnbeautycentre.com
VKent 2 years ago
Hi, DermaRollers or Medical Micro-Needling devices can be used on old stretch marks. Regarding the online purchase of these products a very important factor is the length of the needles. Do you know what needle length 'roller' you have been considering (typically quoted in mm)?
db307 2 years ago
it thislink here .............http://www.wahanda.com/product/6495-27-cellulite-reducing-derma-roller-with-fast-active-inch-loss-gel-save-72/?utm_source=wahanda-email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=&utm_campaign=wahanda-mobdeal-daily-notification
it says 1m needles
VKent 2 years ago
For stretch marks my preference is typically to use a roller of 1.5mm (sometimes 2mm). Hope this helps.
alicjahealingtemple 2 years ago
I didn't use them myself so can say either way as my cellulite reduction treatment is based on the deep tissue massage and healthy diet but from what I've heard these derma rollers works but you have to make sure that needles are certain length.I read in one newspaper that Angelina Jolie was using it for acne treatment.
RegNurse 2 years ago
Medical needling rollers are an excellent way to rejuvenate the skin, including stretch marks. you've had some detailed replies, so I wont repeat the science of it. You do need to go for the deeper treatments though (2mm) to get results. There’s a demo of it on my website if you want to see it in action. I have had excellent results on stretch marks – one of my clients said she is happy to go on a beach in her bikini now http://www.indulgencebeauty.me.uk/microneedling.htm
michellerabbit 2 years ago
HI I have been using a 1.5 mm roller on my very old stretch marks. i do not have the freezing cream so i do not draw much blood, however, I roll over each area 4 times vertically and 4 times horizontally. They get very red and stay red for a few days.
What I find very helpful is the products I use after rolling. I recommend copper peptides. I also use a stretch mark cream that has emu oil, and aloe Vera and grapefruit extract vitamin E etc. After you roll creams penetrate the skin better.
I also have a high frequency wand which I started using after the creams last week. it is supposed to make the cream penetrate even deeper. (Not necessary but I thought, why not)
i do it once every 2 weeks, and sometimes once a week.
I have noticed a significant improvement in the area. The stretch marks are there,but the skin feels thicker, and they are not as deep, and blend in much better with my skin.
It is very important to sterilize the roller before and after use. Make sure the area is clean. and use your copper peptides and creams every day twice a day.
db307 2 years ago
ok so the general consensus is that you need over 1.5mm to make a difference so the one given in the wahnda link at 1mm woud be of no use??
VKent 2 years ago
Yes you need to use a device with a needle length of at least 1.5mm.
Ideally I would recommend that you attend a qualified practitioner in a clinic setting and get his/her opinion first.
Devices with needles of up to 3mm in length have been mentioned on this thread yet nobody commenting has asked where your stretch marks are located. We can assume they are located on the abdomen as this is the commonest area for these to occur but stretch marks can also be found on the breasts, arms, back, thighs, buttocks and hips.
The new Clinicare Medical Micro-Needling device is producing very satisfactory results. This device uses an alternative 'disc roller; technology meaning that each roller has some 540 needles on it (200-300 more than other other devices). The needles are diamond shaped in cross section meaning they are thinner and pain is less.
LindaBrady 2 years ago
Yes they do but you must have at least a1mm needle and preferably a1.5 mm depth needle to do the job and you will need 3 or four treatments to clear them but i have had very good results with old strtch marks and scars of 20 years
See my website for more detailed information at http://www.shalimataesthetics.co.uk
Johnydgddsg 10 months ago
Yes derma roller definitely work for reducing old stretch marks. Dermaroller treatment is very good for removing old stretch marks. if you want to get more information related with derma roller than visit http://www.whitelotusantiaging.co.uk this site here you will get all the information .
annielizstan 10 months ago
I think the roller is better for improving skin quality and shallow scars, not for forming new collagen to fill in the missing dermis. This is especially true for those deep, thick stretch marks you get on your sides.you should try.It will help.
apedawg 5 months ago
If you want to get rid of stretch marks without the pain, use numbing cream before hand :) And i wouldn't use a derma roller it might case some tearing of the skin. I'd recommend using the micro needle therapy pen. You can find it on ebay.
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